All’s Fair in Lies & War?

Many politicians seem to be above the law, but none more than Obama. His attempt to make a back room deal with General Petreaus, and Foreign Minister Hoshvar on the withdraw of forces from Iraq, shows his true colors.  There has been little debate, among PUMA members that Obama is anti – American.  But this latest attempt, shows more of his non-concern for American troops.  They are but another political ploy in his strategy.


It is reported in the New York Post & also Fox News   today:


WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops – and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”

“However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open.” Zebari says.

Though Obama claims the US presence is “illegal,” he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the “weakened Bush administration,” Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama’s administration wouldn’t be fully operational before February – and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament – which might well need another six months to pass it into law.


I have to assume Obama, has never heard of Logan’s Law:

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority. However, there is no record of any convictions or even prosecutions under the Logan Act.[1][2]

Passed under the administration of President John Adams, during tension between the U.S. and France, it was informally named for Dr. George Logan of Pennsylvania, a state legislator (and later US Senator) and pacifist who in 1798 engaged in semi-negotiations with France during the Quasi-War.[1]

Kevin Kearney, writing in the Emory Law Journal, described Dr. Logan’s activities in France:

Upon his arrival in Paris, he met with various French officials, including Talleyrand. During these meetings, he identified himself as a private citizen, discussed matters of general interest to the French, and told his audience that anti-French sentiment was prevalent in the United States. Logan’s conversation with Merlin de Douai, who occupied the highest political office in the French republic, was typical. Logan stated that he did not intend to explain the American government’s position, nor to criticize that of France. Instead, he suggested ways in which France could improve relations with the United States, to the benefit of both countries. He also told Merlin that pro-British propagandists in the United States were portraying the French as corrupt and anxious for war, and were stating that any friend of French principles necessarily was an enemy of the United States. Within days of Logan’s last meeting, the French took steps to relieve the tensions between the two nations; they lifted the trade embargo then in place, and released American seamen held captive in French jails. Even so, it seems that Logan’s actions were not the primary cause of the Directory’s actions; instead, Logan had merely provided convenient timing for the implementation of a decision that had already been made.[3]

This is what Obama was trying to stop, so he could take the credit for the withdraw. 

Iraq News
Zebari: US and Iraq close to signing pact
Monday, September 15, 2008 07:46 GMT

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hosheyar Zebari announced that the United States and Iraq are close to signing an agreement that might allow the withdrawal of most US Forces from Iraq from the present time until the year 2011 considering that any early US withdrawal might slip the country anew into violence. Zebari explained that the Parliament has one text of the security agreement that requires a political resolution to be accepted by the government.

The Foreign Minister asserted that Iraq is ready to resume talks with the United States and Iran and is discussing with both parties a date to hold a new round of talks. Zebari revealed that Al Qaeda is facing difficulties in Iraq due to US strikes strategy, the improvement of Iraqi security forces and the unity of Sunni leaders against insurgents. He added however that this progress is still not enough as it should be supported by political improvement.

Obama does NOT want to see any more plans to bring troops home, being announced before election day.



So, we all already know Obama thinks he is above the law, so what’s one more law broken matter? So, I have to assume alls fair in lies & war?  At least that’s how it seems, while campaigning against the war in Iraq, he is again trying to fool the American people.  Where are those 527’s when you need them?


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